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One thing I agree with you on. A lot of guys will have to learn a whole new way of hunting.

We still have Stanley on this site don't we?

Funny that someone looked at this today since Hunter and I are on the Bab helping Ty’s son Alex who drew a tag. No luck for them yet but today a kid with Hunt of a Lifetime tagged out on a big bull after a total of only 6 hours in the blind! An amazing experience to be part of that. We have been seeing more bison on this hunt, but so far that’s the only hunter to tag out.

Its over boys... decision has been made. Lets bury this horse.

I'm gonna regret this, but here goes... I've gotten two "once in a lifetime" permits- early bull in unit 10, and deer in unit 13B. Unit 10- I hunted the BigBo, after spending 20 man days scouting and 200 miles of boots on the ground scouting. It was the best hunt I ever had. My son and I both got great bulls, and I met several guided hunters who had not even seen a good bull. It felt like I knew almost as much as the guides did (surely I didn't, but it felt like it). No game cameras anywhere. Unit 13- I spent 18 days scouting and hunting the unit. There were game camera "traffic jams" on every water hole. The guides knew every buck in the unit, and their runners were all over. It felt like any buck in the unit had snipers waiting for them. Just how it felt- not anywhere near the hunt I had hoped for. Honestly, for 90% of hunt units, I never thought game cameras were even a factor in the hunts. But in high trophy units with high-stakes guides in play, it sure seemed different.

Because guys get butthurt when women kill bigger game than them.

Just confirmed by the vet that we will be expecting 8-10 healthy lab puppies at the end of May. Father is a white English lab and mother is a black English/American lab. Both are full bred AKC with pedigrees. They are our family dogs that love to tag along at camp and count down the days to dove season. Puppies will be fully papered and have had their first shots when they will be ready to go to their forever homes mid July. As of June 14th, only 4 black males are remaining.

Inb4 the same guides that were killing them with cams are still killing them without cams.

exactly thats a smart women, most that hang around predominately men websites are basically just like Barflies and nothing butt trouble.

There are a lot of "hunters" out there that will never kill another animal unless they drastically change the way they hunt. One of them spoke pretty boisterously at the commission meeting. I laugh because he's got people buffaloed into believing he really knows his sh!t. As much as I don't like to see another rule, it will give me great pleasure to watch the truth come out about a lot of blowhard hacks that hunt in this state.

Truth^^^

Watch. The next thing will be...no hunting within 1/4 mile of a water source. Works on the Big Bo, so that is my guess. Everyone's posts on here about the tanks getting mobbed are just fuel for the smoldering fire.

You're making numbers up man!!! You have no idea what percentage of guys use cameras... outfitters or otherwise. You try and use the strip, a couple elk units and the rest of the state in one argument when they might as well be on different sides of the planet. The price of hunts, the amount of cameras, the number of outfitters, the number of DIY hunters, the size of the bucks and bulls, the demand for tags and lengths guys go to kill big animals are all completely different than the rest of Arizona. If an outfitter on the strip is willing to buy "pallets" of cameras, you don't think he will hire a bunch of young guys to sit and watch deer all summer? You don't think an outfitter with 3 or 4 unit 9 early rifle bull tags won't hire guys to sit on tanks morning and evening to take pictures of the bulls that come in? I'm not trying to offend you but you haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

95% of statistics guys use are pulled directly from their ars.

95% of DIY guys don't use a camera in a significant way as to help them be successful so how is it going to hurt them? About 95% of guides do use cameras in a significant way as to help them be successful. 15 years ago if a DIY guy wanted the best chance of success he either went up and scouted or hired an outfitter. Now if a DIY guy wants to be successful he goes and scouts or hires an outfitter. Only difference is now the outfitters don't know the exact time and place the biggest bucks and bulls are drinking every single day for months on end. The animals have a fighting chance now and the majority of DIY guys that never used a camera anyway will have a much more level playing field. And overall mature animals being killed will go down on both sides.

Whatever. Your wife hunts! That means she will be out WITH you! More time spent together in the field is a good thing! 😁 Just be careful out there. Could mean your family will be growing sooner rather than later now.

The LAST thing in the world we would want is the legislature making decisions about wildlife. Even if its something we wholeheartedly agree with.. Thats a recipe for disaster. I think what the commission is trying to do is keep things like this out of the legislature and off ballots... which I agree with 100%.

It basically bans cameras just for hunting purposes or assisting in hunting. You can have them out just as long as you dont hunt that general area. With that being said there is a huge grey zone when it even comes to that

Using a camera "for the aid of taking game". So if you have a camera in June, see a big bull, now you know it is in the area. If you shoot it in November, technically, you have used a camera in the aid of taking game. Illegal. I have never used a camera. And to be honest, last year, on the late bull hunt in 7W, EVERY SINGLE WATER HOLE we checked over 10 days had at least 3 cameras on it. Some had 5 or 6. So it is not just the trophy units. Not a fan of the cam. But I don't think this ban will work at all. Too hard to prove it's usage. Innocent until proven guilty. Going to be a huge cluster f♡(&.

I don't think anyone would argue this. Obviously 13B and A, the Bab, 9 and 10 (not on the Big Bo) are the trail cam problem areas. The issue with the ban lies with the rest of the state to the south where there isn't this trail cam congestion.

Took the words out of my mouth. The truth is the commissioners are tired of hearing the complaints, that's why this passed 5-0. They keep repeating themselves that they are tired of dealing with it. If this was about disrupting game, they would ban hunting on water, or reduce hunter tags.

I actually thought there were a bunch of chicks on this site based on all of the whining and complaining.

Not quite 40". 32 1/4" wide, 196 3/8", biggest buck in the family.

That why we have Kevin

San Carlos will look to do the same very soon with potentially some places open like Talkalai and Seneca. Some of our tanks in the high country have already gone dry and we've been hauling water to temporary troughs in dry areas. DAN