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Actually, the use of the camera would still be legal even after the ban. It seems to me the intent was to provide security for his camp. No violation

Sorry been a little busy trying to get my house up for sale.

I think it's safe to say that without the game cameras, more big bucks and bulls are gonna slip through the cracks every year. Will it make for better hunting and bigger overall animals in 10 years?

I hate seeing cameras on every trail, water source, or wallow as much as the next guy, but I can't believe how many of you are showing support for this. MORE REGULATION IS NOT OUR FRIEND! This is just the start to loosing more freedom. WTF.

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quite a few Guides are the ones that Created this mess, Thank them.

I agree 100%, a survey by AZGFD would show the real sentiment about trail cameras in Arizona. I did a simple google search of the people that were listed as being at the meeting where Commissioner Sparks advocated for them in 2018 (it was posted earlier today by trophyseeker). The people were listed as members of the public in the meeting notes. I did a google search with their name followed by arizona hunting. Out of the 16 pro camera attendees, here is what my simple search revealed. - Three were advisory members of a Bighorn sheep Committee (probably not your average hunters if they are focused on Bighorns, they may have been at the meeting for some other reason or ?) - Eight were guides, most affilliated with the big outfitter that flaunts their camera inventory on facebook (someone posted pictures of it in an earlier reply to this thread) - One was an Arizona attorney, he could have been a hunter or representing the pro camera side or possibly both. - One was the leader of an outdoor 501c3 that probably has a cozy relationship with the guides that help with donated tags. - Three of them were mysteries, at least using my simple search. If the Commission honestly considered the pro camera attendees to be simple public citizen hunters they were mislead. A few more thoughts on that meeting. A fairly reliable senior member of this forum doubted the claim that all of the trophy groups were contacted as Sparks claimed back then. He is in a pretty good position to make that judgement since he would have been the primary contact for one of the groups. Since one of the basis for trail camera regulation was that they violated fair chase this claim would likely have been taken into serious consideration by the Commission at the time. I also found the claim that trail cameras assist disabled hunters to be curious, I am guessing most disabled hunters are thrilled to shoot a mature animal and have little need to scrutinize their racks on a trail camera first. Maybe the guides are looking for trophies to post in their marketing photos but I doubt trail cameras really add that much to the experience for disabled people. I think that was another formulaic baseless line of crap. Bottom line, if the pro camera guys approach this like they did they did the last time they are going to get steamrolled this time. That weak bullcrap isnt going to hold water the next time. And one more note for the guys claiming they will fail to comply. If you have or have had an Arizona hunting license in the past few years you are going to have a heck of a time claiming you arent using your cameras for hunting in the future. You will be forced to choose whether you are a criminal, a hunter or a wildlife photographer. Only two of those are law abiding citizens so the turning law abiding citizens into criminals line is also a load as well. Ryan - -

I haven't hunted in Arizona for 6 years. Working in Texas. My brother calls a couple of months ago. He tells me he has bought my license and put us in for a deer hunt. He wouldn't take no for an answer. So we got drawn for a Coues hunt at the end of November. I talk my boss into 2 weeks off and I drove out the day before the hunt. As you would expect the first few days were spent trying to stay away from other hunters. Then Sunday night all you heard were trucks driving out. Monday mourning we found our selves pretty much alone. My brother shot a spike Monday afternoon and I shot a nice 3X3 on Tuesday. Today we left camp. Always remember trust your brother!

Making Hunting Great again! No more trail Camera bullchit Hope Utah is next!

We’re still at it. I’ll probably post more details after the hunt

Mom is home, Hallelujah! God Bless each and everyone who prayed for us or otherwise sent positive energy our way! I can't thank you enough.

I got lucky and drew a random 12aw late tag this year. I honestly expected to see more bucks per day, i'd say we averaged seeing 10 bucks a day, but roughly half of those we saw were pretty good bucks in the 160-165 range, with a handful of 170-175 bucks over the course of 5 1/2 days. They seemed very pockety to me, one draw would have a bunch of deer with some bucks kicking around, the next draw with the exact habitat would have nothing. The evenings were very slow for us, at least the first few days since it was so dang hot. Most of the mature bucks seemed to be hanging in the pines right before it opened up into the oaks. My dad found this inline buck on day 3 and i figured he was on the bubble; good deer but i wanted to hold out for a few more days. Day 4 we couldn't turn him up and considered him gone to find new does, but we hung around to see if new bucks would move in. I was able to put glass on him the morning of day 5 in the same canyon and knew he was a shooter. After several days of looking at what i'd consider good bucks, he stood out a lot. I knew he didn't have great mass or width but was long and had character so i couldn't resist.

I’m on your side here but come on! 5–10 years later??? Emotions seem to be taking over on an issue that should stay rational.

1 cal ranch trap+1 can tuna=1 enjoyable ride to the desert

I live in NM , and I say F NM!!!. A bunch of f’n liberal retards elected this governor. This state is full of them.

I have 3 new unused pounds of reloader 22. I'm looking for factory 9mm or CCI#41 primers only at this time. Will trade based on non stupid panic pricing. Will throw in a little cash if necessary. I will be out of town this week and can't make a trade until Saturday morning.

He's saving that for the meeting.

Oh chit he is back. Thought you left. Good to have you back. Were you crying and needed a break?

This might not be the most popular topic ever, but I know absolutely 0 about hunting ducks down here. I have recently caught the bug. Driving to puddles in 36b, shooting and missing is very in-efficient. Any suggestions?

Looks like his toes to me. Have you started gripping your XDM with your feet?

If the glove don't fit you gotta acquit

I don't like point restrictions, I get beat up for shooting a spike then if I pass on one I get beat up for not shooting anything ??? Tuff crowd

Welcome to living in a blue state now. If you enjoy hunting bear and lion get one while you can. That will be next. California 2.0

I guess u find it ethical to to find animals with a device that pretty much undectical by a animals. Selling animals has put pile of people in the woods, most of the helpers don't have a guide license but thats probably fine with u also. 20 years ago we didn't have them littered on public land and good hunters still harvested animals

Recoil management, cheek weld, pressure/loading into the rifle (actually been proven to change velocity slightly too), eye differences for diopter and parallax changes, sympathetic grip/pressure/movement of the shooting hand, shoulder placement of stock, body position.