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SP101 in .38 Special with Pachmayr grips. A nice piece for a bed stand, should Richard Ramirez ever decide to play tooth fairy at your place. Comes with 200 rnds of 158gr Blazer ammo. 2.25" barrel length $440 in Tucson

So I did a quick rough score on him last night and I got him at around 98 1/2". Not sure if I'll be able to squeeze an extra inch and a half even if I take my time but we'll see.

Not to mention, the whole intent of the OP is to illustrate the general hypocrisy of the members here for having what he perceives to be inconsistent reactions toward poachers. Meanwhile he's talking about his dislike of poachers and how they should all be punished equally out of one side his mouth, while bragging about how he's going to pay off a $20K fine for a convicted serial poacher. You seriously can't make this stuff up.

I am not accusing anyone of poaching that bull. But I do hope AZGFD finds the culprit, whoever it was, and throws the book at them.

Jed was charged and convicted on the illegal take of one bull elk. Not saying it might not be his only offense. In fact, I highly doubt it. I think the penalties were way too light. As do most, if not all others do as well. Including NoBull350, with whom I agree with on this case. The reason people keep bringing up Blake, is NoBull350 shows no understanding of the severity of Blake's actions. He was the most staunch supporter and defender of Blake, even after the charges were filed and the rulings handed down. Constantly defending Blake, minimalizing the charges and offenses, disallowing the numerous other charges that were dropped, and flat out either lying or blatantly avoiding the truth. Then, laughing about it and flaunting it in the hunting community's faces. Blake was charged and convicted of the illegal take/possession of 4 deer, a bear, a coati, theft of property, and two counts of fraud. I think that is 600% worse. Then, he bragged about one of the illegally taken deer all over the place, took prizes, etc. Which I think were the "fraud" charges. There are other certain "coincidences" of live photos of animals, who ended up poached very shortly after, that were posted. Not saying there is a connection, but sure is suspicious in my opinion. But...."no one cares what I think".

Naw, no need for that. I killed a bigger one anyhow. Oh, and I did it legally.

I do not think this thread is Blah.The real issue is Mr. Larson and A3. He is a high level member of A3 one of the premiere outfitting businesses in Arizona. Despite his statements proclaiming it was an honest mistake, if the judge and the prosecutor believed this, this matter wold have likely been resolved in weeks not years. Likely the charges would have been dropped. The fact is he pleaded guilty to a federal crime. He is a convicted criminal. He crossed the fence to shoot a trophy bull elk. Anyone who hunts or lives up there knows of the temptations of the bulls across the fence. Fortunately most people resist the temptation and do the right thing. Some do not as evidenced by his guilty plea. I enjoyed his lawyer's written statement attempting to get out of any restitution. It made as much sense to me as to the judge. I am sure if you asked him, this was his "first mistake". That is a common statement in drug trafficking offenses as well. This is a black eye on the outfitting business I would like to see an official statement from A3.

I’m starting to see a pattern here with you and your brother. You guys are some seriously sick SOB’s. I’ve always heard the worst type of criminal is one that doesn’t show remorse for what they did only that they got caught. To be able to fabricate a story about how he killed a buck and then go on the internet and magazines and lie about it is sick, but then to continue on without remorse about it even after it destroys a career and messes up little kids growing up through it and still not have remorse or even the ability to believe that it was wrong and not all a lie yourselves is a level of crazy that isn’t even fathomable by normal people. Stay batsh1t crazy my friend.

i find it hard to believe a professional guide with many years experience in a unit didnt know exactly where the rez boundary was.

Every thread where Lark got all worked up was great...

We sure do how else are we going to get to this thread to made 100 pages...?

Fuel, vehicle expense, dog expense and all the aforementioned. If I got my gross production for my business I would have been able to retire after a few years!!!

Where are the deductions for insurance and forest permits?

Maybe you could produce a new Netflix series “Poacher King” and spend three seasons trying to exploit the horrific injustices in the real life examples of two Arizona poachers?

I’m gonna keep this rolling for most quoted thread in CWT history and say that I also care what lance thinks. He’s probably the most useful and productive member of any hunting thread I’ve ever seen. From what I can see you are definitely the least useful member of any hunting thread I’ve ever seen. Even below the ones selling cheap pharmaceuticals.

You just spent 11 pages complaining that the guys who post here don't think the way you believe they should. So, apparently you do care what he thinks.

And, for what it's worth, most of the folks here really do care what Lance has to say because he's been extremely helpful to a lot of people here on this forum, sharing his knowledge and insight and making this place better because of his contributions. Can you say the same? Well except for providing comic relief. BTW, we're laughing at you, not with you.

That's twice now. Next time you get a ruler across the knuckles. You ridiculed another poster about spelling and grammar, and yet you still can't figure out to, two and too. But don't stop posting, please. It gives us all a little levity in hard times.

I do. You are an embarrassment quite honestly.

I think A3 should fire the guide. I think he got off too light. I think Blake should be in jail. I think NoBull calling this out is hilarious, and one of the biggest hypocritical threads I have ever seen.

A lot of your anger seems to be related to how the two cases had such different outcomes. It would be interesting to see both of the pre-sentencing reports side by side. I'm guessing they read very differently. Here are just a few samples of your many posts. I can assure you, all this ch!t didn't help your brother out at all! If Blake had the same attitude, I'm not shocked at all that he got a harder slap on the wrist than your average guy.. Just my .02 LOL F the AZGFD ! It’s going to be nice to ask the wannabes how they feel when that 23n buck comes home . Like back to its rightful owner bc777 who resides in Heber . Especially goofy Mark and flaming Shawn from the AZGFD ! Then again goofy mark doesn’t seem to bright and he may have missed something in all those long hrs wasting tax payers money . Truth be told there is a 50/50 chance that bc777 will laying claim to more of those hard earned sportsman dollars . Motions are being filled soon . If the motions go in his favor it will be more like 70/30 he will be spending your hard earned sportsman’s dollars . ??? At that point I assumed they had to be watching my phone as well . So I tried to bait them several times to no avail. When goofy mark was trying to question my son I used some of their tactics on them . Im getting my info from 3 criminal defense attorneys . Whem the time is right any and all questions will be answered . The civil liability the clowns at the azgfd are carrying is quite heavy . Thats funny because an attorney got a wild woody today when I sent him a pm I received ! Just remeber this ! THE STING THAT GOT STUNG ! How do you know Blake didnt learn from his crime ? the scum bag lead investigator goofy mark went on to ask them if they heard gun shots ! No sir I am not justifying bc777 actions , Stealing the camera was wrong ! My brother needs no help . He has the law and God by his side ! why is it that you dip shots on here can’t get it threw your head that a judge dismissed it ? We k re charges were dismissed right away . I’ll just tell you what the legal team is calling this . The sting that got stung . Remeber that when this all comes out it’s going to blow your simple minds . . I will have bc777 pray for you ! So what do you think about the recent turn of events ? I can see a lot of you on here can read but fail to comprehend what you have read . If this is you ask any 3rd grade kid to sum it up for you . No Im laughing at you phag! Omg you people truly amaze me . It blows my mind that your hatered for bc777 will allow you to lose total control over any logical judgment . . Azgfd Had a personal vendetta against bc777 that turned into a witch hunt . This case was never intended to see a day in court and it will never see a day in court ! AZGFD has its own ideas of justice !

Absolutely. So is there a phrase we can say or petition we can sign so that you know, that we know, that you know we all think Jeds a bad guy and you can just wander off to where ever you came from?

I learned at a young age from the first guide I ever knew personally that almost all the bragging, chest thumping, braggarts bend the rules to their advantage. When I saw someone poach for the first time in my life Marc Lopeman was filming for him. So later when I saw members of that same group claim to have made an “honest mistake” I learned the routine. The fact of the matter is it’s much more rampant in the industry than anyone would like to admit. I just assume most of the “pro’s” have been involved with something in their career. This doesn’t surprise me at all and I don’t know why anybody would feel the need to defend A3. There has been plenty of drama over the years. So Matt, what’s your point, that your brother and Jed are cut from the same cloth? Cool. It’s stupid how getting to brag about stuff takes over people’s minds. It makes hunting lame. But whatever, it happens in every sport, hobby, industry. It’s not right but it can’t be avoided either.

Those 6-wire fences are hard to see. I can totally see how you could cross one and not even realize it was there