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Friday morning had 2 hits. Was super stoked. 1 guarantee bull rut tag and another bull tag but possible early or late. Called my credit card right now to see if anymore and she said yes. Another 135. Is this fraud? I said heck no this is awesome. So now I have another rut bull tag. Insane

The problem with drawing antelope tags here in Arizona is simple: 689 total tags issued. 310,000 resident licenses, 7.2 million residents and growing. 2030 projection, 8.3 million people. Antelope hunting will soon become a de facto “once in a lifetime” hunt. We can tweak the draw till the cows come home, but it will never overcome the supply vs demand dilemma unique to Arizona.

Manufactured panic created by the media. 8000 people have died from the common flu so far this season, yet not a peep or concern. Suddenly a flu virus with a spooky name is the new Black Death of 1347!

Nice!! I just had the same luck. I got hit today for antelope. Poor guy's card must have been rejected and I was next.

Ask Adam he might know 😂

Max point pool BP numbers for premium hunts for all species are way up there. New hunters or youth who hope to draw premium tags are so far behind points wise, likely they'll never make the max point pool(s) to guarantee a permit. I do advocate that any applicant should have an opportunity to draw a permit, i.e. no waiting periods, preference point system, etc. I've thought about methods that will get long suffering applicants drawn but still give everybody a chance at a permit. I advocate the following: 1) Square applicant bonus points. This would dramatically increase the effectiveness of a bonus point. 2) When the demand for a species (sheep - bison) or any hunt number for any species during a current draw hits above a max point pool threshold of say 20 - 25 points, 50% of the available permits go to max point holders.

Yes! Just got hit for $135 myself. Feels so good to see that charge when you’d given up hope

Now you have me checking every 10 minutes again.

Phonecam from Tines up is the best I’ve tried, better than outdoorsmans or skopecam

I clicked "like"...but I am still pissed at you! That is an awesome surprise!

L77...so I assume 2007. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

It's a meme and it's hilarious because its true.

It was probably one of us poor bastards whining about not getting drawn

an oldie but goodie

Ya anyone can buy stickers , but very thankful to him if they are real...

I don't really trust people like that that claim their awards so publicly. (let alone a crazy liberal) There are reports that there are more fake value then real heros. Its quite a problem today. Alot of fake SF guys and Navy Seals guy. A retired Navy seal Don Shipley spends his whole time exposing fake seals. Its been up in the 1,000s. There are currently 80 living recipients of Medal of Honor. There has been well over a 500 people who have claim they have it. From 30 years to 90 year olds. When you talk to these people you can kind of tell if they are telling the truth. And real Vets see right through them.

As a houndsmen it's scary thinking so many people feel this way about Hounds and those of us who choose that way to hunt. I've had people shoot bears that were bayed on the ground theough our dogs. Have had dogs shot by other hunters. I can tell you right now, no houndsmen ever goes hunting with the goal to ruin another person's hunt. Support a pursuit hunt, and you would not have to deal with as many houndsmen during the kill season. Speaking of road hunting in 23, you'll see more side by sides and people in camo running roads and "light bars" then you will dog boxes. Its quiet clear that the hunting community will never stand together against the true enemy, the animal terrorists and anti hunters, it's much easier to just get rid of the competition if that's what you want to call it. If hound hunting gets banned then people think they will be able to finally kill that 500 pound 23 inch skulled black bear! Instead of learning new spots, hunting harder, or trying to be open minded about something different, it's much easier to blame other people. It's not just houndsmen that get blamed for unfilled archery tags, which are good for like 4 months right? Everyone has a problem with everyone elses ways of hunting. Most of the people that say "oh just shoot it they dont own it" dont get WHY we are out there. You buy a bow or whatever weapon you hunt with and it sits in a closet until you use it. If it sat for 6 months it doesnt cost you anything per day. It cant get sick or hurt. Yes you can have sentimental value to it but can you truly say it's your best friend? You can lock it up in your house and go on vacation for a week. You can go to family events like weddings and funerals. Much easier to trust a gun to be safe by itself then 3, 6, 15+ dogs. You can live wherever you want, you aren't listed in a demographic with no joke a 300-400% divorce rate! Ask 10 houndsmen how many marriages or divorces they've had. Most will say 2 or 3. Most houndsmen have Hounds because it's in our blood. It's our lifestyle. We aren't out there to ruin anyones hunt. Most houndsmen catch and release because it isnt about what we chase, it's about watching a 4th, 5th, 10th generation pup become a solid trusty hunting partner. I am not trying to attack anyone just begging people to be a little open minded. The last thing anyone wants is to get hurt while hunting. Is a bear or a lion or anything really worth it? Why not visit with someone with Hounds and go on a hunt with them? Get to see that we aren't all just fat gross hillbillies that dont care about our dogs. We work hard every single day to get where we can even start catching game with the dogs. Fearing other hunters is not something that should ever run through anyones mind when they go hunting. But after reading some of the comments on this page it makes me wonder if someone on this forum would gun down a pack of dogs and the owner just because they felt "their hunt was ruined". Pretty eye opening.

4b is obvious answer but none of these sand baggers want to mention it

Well, you’re wrong.

Jim, from someone who grew up on a desert ranch and a long time hunter thank you for all you and the organization you represent do! If not for our hard work these uneducated people would have nothing to complain about!!!

I just found a way to give back to the site, be working on Coues art to donate, hope others can join in as well DAN

I'm interested in acquiring coues deer art as well. I have a friend who's an artist and does pointillism sketches. Here' a photo of one. It's not a good picture, I'll take a good one later and repost.

I have noticed the same thing. There isn't much coues deer artwork available and I have been working on a few Coues deer drawings in charcoal. Pm me if you would like to take a look . I would be willing to get some high quality prints made if there were enough people interested in some Coues deer drawings. If you have a cool drawing or a good Coues deer pic for reference I would also be willing to do a custom drawing.