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All cards are processed on the same day however some cards do not show up as charges for 2-3 days. This has more to do with card company & not G&F. You can always call your card Co. and ask if you have any pending charges. You will also hear about some people getting "hits" over the next week or so. These people are the lucky recipients of a tag that was forfeited by some poor bloat(s) whose card was rejected. Lastly, It would be wise to call your card company 2-3 days before G&F charges cards and tell them you are expecting charges from AZ G&F and to let them charge your card. They will put an electronic note in your account folder. Good luck to everyone that drew a tag this year.

hamburger from 2015? Really? That doesn't make it till the next season at my house. You live with a bunch of vegans?

The great thing about tag soup is, you get to go out there, hunt it like you had the tag and learn a little more as a hunter. Find someone who has the tag, help he/she out and it's almost like you had your own tag. Gotta look at the positive side of things.

Sorry, The draw weight can be adjusted between 10-60#. & the length can be adjusted between 14 -29 in. With no bow press need. There are some pretty good videos online that show how to make this adjustments. This is a great youth bow that can even be used by an adult if someone was looking for an entry level bow.

Eddystone Win. M1917 improved to .300 H&H magnum.

I guess we'll find out if anyone posts on Monday. I think the draw process is pretty smooth now honestly. This is the earliest cards have ever been hit. People angry at AZGF for them using cards that expired or putting in incorrect card info is that person's fault not AZGF. You just can't please everyone.

Freedom of Speech = have to put up with people that have different views, what Makes American Great!

Probably a transplant from ‘fornia

No one will lose any points. They stopped doing that. If your card is expired they just give you a “not drawn” and a bonus point.

i agree with your first statement and completely disagree with the second.

Honestly. it doesn't matter what the system is, someone will always bitch. The solution to drawing more tags is....put in for easier hunts to draw, end of story.

i guess we fundamentally disagree on what fair means.

This would be a great hunting rig! Perfect camouflage

no it would not. someone thats been paying $13 app fees for 20 years should be better off than someone who is just starting to apply.

I guess when I read it out loud it does sound a little crazy.... but yes.

I don't really trust people like that that claim their awards so publicly. (let alone a crazy liberal) There are reports that there are more fake value then real heros. Its quite a problem today. Alot of fake SF guys and Navy Seals guy. A retired Navy seal Don Shipley spends his whole time exposing fake seals. Its been up in the 1,000s. There are currently 80 living recipients of Medal of Honor. There has been well over a 500 people who have claim they have it. From 30 years to 90 year olds. When you talk to these people you can kind of tell if they are telling the truth. And real Vets see right through them.

He definitely has dame bramage! Lol

And there are more out there than people realize. Lets face it, Trump is very polarizing. What surprises me is this Vets view on the Second Amendment.

I don't want to start an argument here but, it seems to me we hear guys calling for a waiting period every year now. Sure, some people get lucky. But most people that draw a lot of tags are applying for hunts that are lower in demand, the ones that the "trophy hunters" don't want, ie. late archery tags, cow tags, low tier or mid tier units. People that just want to hunt, aren't willing to wait 10, 15, 20+ years for a tag. In my opinion, if you are putting in for very difficult hunts to draw, because you want to shoot a trophy or nothing, you know what you are getting into. Aside from that, tags are getting harder to draw for a variety of reasons. The population in AZ keeps climbing and more and more people are applying here from all over the country(and world) for a chance at a big bull or buck. More applicants = lower odds. My family has had pretty good luck drawing tags, but I do a lot of research and try to apply for easier to draw hunts. If you want an early rifle or archery bull tag in the units that take a ton of points to draw, prepare to wait.

I don’t agree with this person but..... they are a double Purple Heart, Bronze star awarded Vietnam veteran with an opinion. And that’s enough for me .

Fourth tag in a row for me! Oops sorry wrong group.

To be clear, the mistake is 100% my fault. I should have recognized the expiration date and used another card. I'm only pissed at G&F for their horrible site! I still can't believe that I have to log into each persons application for each species with the order number before I can update the card. We have all said this hundreds of times, "THIS SYSTEM CAN AND MUST BE IMPROVED" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adam, what units did they put in for? If it helps my chances, I am not sorry. If they put in for different units, THAT SUCKS BUDDY!

So I’ve been off CWT since they switched the format and figured I better get back on here and update everyone on the hunt. It was an absolute grind, and I’m glad it’s over, but it was a really great time!!! I ended up buying a proof research 28 nosler and topping it with a 2.5-25x52 March. It was under 8# all put together. This thing is scary accurate with 195 eol Berger’s sitting on 86.5 gr RL 33. Anyhow, onto the hunt! I was lucky enough to have my 3 brothers along for it as well as my wife and my sister in law. To say I couldn’t have done it without them is an understatement! We picked out and area on google earth that I found based on the biologists suggestion. Her exact words were “it’s reallt hard to get to but you’ll find a lot of goats in there”. We all met for breakfast the day before the hunt opened and headed to the trailhead around 10:00am. The hike in to base was only 5 miles so I was thinking we’d be in easily by mid day. Boy was I wrong. Ran into another tag holder on the way in and he said “you’re going in there? You realize there’s no trail and it’s solid blow downs right?” On the plus side he did say they glassed some goats “way the heck back there” this summer!! We trudged on climbing about 2000 vertical feet in the first two miles. We followed the spine for a mile or so and then it dumped into the basin we picked out. I guess I have to say that I was a little underprepared for it!! On google earth I could see some blow downs, but I didn’t expect this! Literally every 30’ for the entire next 2 miles was a blowdown! We plodded on, finally making camp about 4:00 pm. We got a little glassing in that night and were pumped to find plenty of goats!! We glassed up a lone billy above camp a mile or so. We planned on getting a closer look at him in the am. We had to do all the bear stuff, hanging food, no chapstick etc. I had never dealt with that and it’s sort of a pain but I guess considering there was grizzly crap everywhere we needed to do it! The next morning we awoke to high 20’s and clear sky’s. We hiked up to the billy we had glassed. We found him not far from where we left him the night before. One of the many drawbacks of the blow downs is there was literally no cover to approach the goats with. While he was still way above us, I wasn’t sure how much activity they would put up with. Most of the goats I’ve run into on other hunts have been fairly stupid and just watch you from above within easy rifle distance. Realizing we didn’t have any choice, we just headed at him. At about 1000 yards he just got up and hopped over the ridge out of our lives. This made us realize this might be a little tougher then we expected. I wasn’t too bummed as I had gotten a pretty good look at him and he was the type of billy I knew I probably shouldn’t pass but also wasn’t a giant so I was a little optimistic that we would find a better one. It didn’t take long glassing and my brother glassed up a big group of nannies and kids. I had made a decision that I was only going to shoot a billy so we kept looking. About an hour later my other brother picked up some goats that we had somehow missed. It was two mature animals together. It didn’t take long looking to realize they were both mature billies. One had a Snow White coat and the other a kinda piss yellow one. The yellow one may have been a 1/2” bigger but the white one was much prettier. We decided whichever offered a shot would do. This time we were smarter and found a ridge to hide our approach. We picked a spot that we figured would get us to 500 yards and looped around to it. When we got there we peeked over and ranged them and it was 770 yards. I am capable of the shot with a decent wind read or a calm day, but the wind was literally blowing 3 different directions including straight up!! We pushed on and found a new location that got us what I thought would only be 100 yards on them. When we got there my brother ranged them and said 435!! Bingo. That’ll work! We slid into position, the only visible one was the Snow White billy. He was bedded with his left leg hanging off a cliff looking down on us. The obvious chest shot was actually blocked by his nose as he looked down so I decided to slip a bullet right past it and into his shoulder, hopefully catching some back lung and liver and breaking his close shoulder. With my brothers all locked on him I sent one up. He jumped up at the shot carrying his leg. I assumed it was a lethal shot but slammed another in his opposite shoulder as fast as I could. He dropped at this shot, anchored on the ledge he was bedded on!! Billy down! High fives all around! We didn’t realize that we were just getting to the hard part! It took us around 2 hours of rock climbing to get to him, and these billies were in some of the easier to get to stuff in there!! I was blown away with how gorgeous he was when we got to him. I had a lot of people tell me to wait for later season for better hair, but I’m in love with the dense look of his hair. It’s probably 3” long and dense. My first shot broke his close shoulder but wasn’t lethal due to the steep angle. I was very lucky to get a second one in him. His horns were awesome. I really didn’t know what to expect and wasn’t worried about an inch of horn either way but was really excited to see he was a mature billy. The biologist later measured him at 9” long, 5 1/2” bases and 7.5 years old. A really good billy for this part of Montana. We were able to get some pics on the shelf he was on but had to lower him with paracord to get him somewhere safe to butcher. With packs loaded with meat and a life size cape we slowly picked our way down the mountain and back to spike camp. The next morning we got up and loaded our packs and headed out. We had between 40-60# packs going in with our food and gear for 5 days. There’s a surprising amount of meat on a mtn goat and that combined with the cape (which weighed 40#) we all ended up with 50-70# packs on the way out. It took us 5 hours to go the 5 miles out. I can’t explain how demoralizing those blow downs are!!! I’ve never been so happy to see my truck!! We were all wiped out so we stayed in Cooke city that night. A giant ribeye and a half dozen Coors lights never taste so good!! I’m really lucky to have drawn the tag while I was still fairly young and somewhat fit. When we got home we butchered the meat, which looked and smelled excellent. I had heard so many horror stories about goat meat but I don’t believe what I hear as I’ve heard people say antelope, Sandhill crane, and sharptail grouse are all gross as well and they couldn’t be more wrong. My wife cooked up some tenderloin and backstrap that night and I have to say it was incredible. Similar flavor to antelope but maybe a little tougher. I was really thinking I would have to grind it all I to chorizo or jerky but we instead did all roasts and steaks with it. We got back to ND and turned and burned to the Missouri breaks for an archery elk hunt. Saw 25-30 bulls and had some close calls but no arrows in the air. I had to go back to work for 2 days to make sure the place didn’t burn down and now I’m off to Utah for an elk hunt! I love this time of year!