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That attitude is exactly what's wrong with this site these days. Sometimes a guy or gal just wants to talk to other hunters. Guys like me have very few friends and are alone with their wife most of the time so these conversations are hard to come by. Lighten up A little and humor a fellow human. You might make a friend or help someone out.

My body finally stopped hurting enough to type. Short story 27 days hunting two bull bison seen on the last day. Long story Checking my cc when I saw the spring cards getting hit. I saw the typical nothing, a week later for s&g I check my points and then I see I was drawn after a few cards were declined. I literally lose my breath for a moment. I immediately start googling everything, watch every video on youtube and post something about getting drawn and get some big time help from a couple of CWT members WHTMTNHNTR, Tom and Chewy. I spend the months talking, practicing with my bow and talking to the guys who previously had the hunt. After talking to about 20 previous hunters I discover a theme about the politics of the situation. 18 essentially said the same thing and two had glowing reviews of Jacoby. I decide not to play and go away from the group always being respectful to the group but doing my own thing. First weekend (5 days) I run into a giant wall of snow and that doesn't allow me to get much past Jakob Lake. I decide to try Saddle Mtn Wilderness. Saturday morning just before dawn I am just waking up I hear a clop of a bovine animal 30 yards from where I sleep, I grab my flashlight and see a smaller bison escaping up the hill next to my truck. Nothing interesting happened for the rest of the time except for stopping at Lee's Ferry for the first time and catching a few trout. Two weeks later I go for 3 days I get within 3 miles of the traditional area and see my first bison sign at some far off point. getting stuck and nearly getting in a fight with some californians that rented some pretty cool razors and were driving like they stole them was the highlight May 10th , nine days, My brother and step dad come and we stay at big springs cabins. Finally get to a marginal area stina point and timp point. Lots of sitting no bison. Me and my brother decide to look around a bit and meet some other hunters and discover the main guide does not like people on his trail cams. My brother took it as a personal challenge and the next camera he saw he started using his Fortnite Repertoire and did the "orange justice" than the "carlton" and finished off the day with a "Dab" We meet a couple of other hunters and they suggest the loser dance and I go retro with MC Hammers U cant touch this. Snow is still much to hunt anything but the three mile stretch that the majority of hunters are in, I do my best to stay away from them. Jacoby very likely has 80 salts with cameras so it is very hard to leave his grasp. The week ends drinking Bacanora with a couple of turkey hunters from Chihuahua and a retired game california game warden telling hunting stories and looking at successes on each others phones. It was a good evening. The final week I go solo (10 days). I head to the nameless point where we cut some fresh tracks and I left a salt and a camera. Nothing. I check the other eight cameras I left out there and nothing. I learn that the only thing I missed for the week was more snow. Total one Bison was seen for the all of the group of hunters and it was still deciding its gender. Sitting there thinking and watching the same piece of salt for a few days I decided if I am going to fail, I will fail the way I am best hunting. Thick cover stillhunting. I go to the deepest canyon I can find and find one of the super special areas that one of the paying clients is in. I leave shaking my head in frustration. Friday comes around and I hear three gunshots, for the first time its warm enough not to wear jacket. Later I learn, a gentlemen I met at Arizona Archery Club filled his tag deservedly. Saturday I hear four more shots but no reports of any more bison taken, first day without rain or snow. Last day, I am resound to the fact I will not fill my tag and tell my wife I am leaving around noon. the voices in my head are telling me to go by the park entrance which I do. (you will hear voices in your head too if when you go ten days solo) I wake early and pass the groups meeting place an hour before there scheduled meeting time. I get to dirt tank 1 about the time the remaining hunters are getting to their group session and for the first time in the morning I leave my bow in the truck (packed to go home) and take my WW2 model 70 instead. I work my way to the southeast corner of the small field and then I see a brown head pop up and ram another brown head. For a second I think I am watching a couple of bears fighting, then I realize they are not bears. The fight is going on for several seconds as I am just realizing what I am watching. All of the videos and studying is kicking in and I start figuring out if they are male or female. The vitals are out of sight but there eyes and horns have me pinned. I drop to my stomach and crawl to a flatter area. they stop fighting and it looks they are going to leave when they turn and head to the flat part of the field. The closest bull is about 60 yards and the farther one is about 80. after 27 days i no longer care about which one is bigger and am waiting to see the penis sheath to confirm sex and a broadside shot. the one at 80 obliges. I place the crosshair on his heart and squeeze. He buckles and starts jogging I place two more shots in the lungs in a few seconds. the bull stops and place my last shot and last bullet for that matter in him and he drops and is down within 45 seconds of my first shot. This is where the pain begins I get my truck 248 yards from the bison on snowy road. I take pictures and take my pack. I start about 545 and put the last piece in my truck around 300. It was the second and final bison taken out of 25 tags. This is also my eighth big game species of the big 10 all of them solo, seven with my bow.

Here’s a great breakdown. Hope it helps. matthews- a favorite of eastern tree stand hunters and noobs. It’s important to note that every Hoyt, bowtech, pse, and prime fan are closet Matthews fans too. PSE is for everyone who swears vortex are the same as swarovskis and male domestic partnerships. prime is the choice of the country’s best, brightest, and most good looking people. Hoyt is the choice of the prime shooters slightly uglier and dumber little brother. i hope this completely objective review helps guide your decision. P.S.- I know you didn’t ask for a bowtech review but bowtechs are for everyone who thinks it’s a good idea to put spoilers on Honda civics.

Up! A couple smallies for your thoughts!

I’m not gay, but a sheep tag is a sheep tag, am I right?

elk are really easy to pattern this time of year. Put them out sooner rather than later. Once you find a monster bull that hits the tank constantly.........You won't see him again once hard horned. Back in 2010 me and my buddy had a camera up at a tank and saved every pic from July 4th until the end of archery season. We both killed 350 class bulls off of the same tank. We looked back at all the pics and that was the first time either bull had been to that tank since before the 4th of July. But man I think it is a blast to see the critters on camera. It's a good time for sure but won't really help you with finding a particular bull.

I did 28 and 24B

I'm surprised in so many 10x votes and relatively few 8x. Anyone with experience on the combo care to share any additional thoughts either way?

Hope I don’t get a December sheep tag, December whitetail Hunt, and a December sandhill crane tag all at once. I’d hate to have to turn in a deer and sheep tag.

Late MD hunt for a long shot, and Oct WT for reality.

Hoping to get youth tags as well. One for my 13 year old daughter and another for my 11 year old daughter. This will be the first hunt for younger if she gets drawn so we're all pretty excited to see what she gets. A 10 day coues hunt down south for the wife and a late coues hunt for me. Hoping for some good times ahead hunting with my family.

I’ll take bonus points myself, but I’d really like to see my daughter and one of my buddies get their first deer this year. So I guess I’m hoping for a lucky youth tag...

Congrats! The 90% let off on the new PSE's is a game changer. It's also the lightest of those bows.

23/24A Rocky tag or I would settle for the 6A/22 rocky tag. Also a late Dec coues tag in 24a or b.

Alot of trafficaround Rogers trof, it s polaris play ground.

Watch out...that's half the guys on this site...

The stocks finally came! Unfortunately dumb dumb ordered the wrong one for my daghters gun and I had to send it back and reorder (yes, I am dumb dumb). Anyhoo, I got to say when I originally saw the original at one stock I thought they were hideous, then I saw the thumb hole versions i was intrigued. I gotta say seeing it in person and on my son's axis I think the thumb hole version looks sweet. The kids also loved them so that's a plus.

I’ve threatened to quit when they said no. I’m still working so either they need me or my job sucks so bad they can’t hire a replacement.

I never understood how every organization will tell you hunter recruitment is down.

I got cheap burbon, snap-on pliers, a headlamp, garden hose, and an inspection mirror. No cost, just need the experience. Pm me.

Charles Bier in Payson, 3 tooth Bridge $2700. Never felt a thing.

Cade Smith of All Smiles Dental Care. Great dude and owner/inventor of the triclawps. Great guy and good prices.

I have a buddy who is a dentist. I go to him because he’s straight up and doesn’t try to sell me a bunch of extra work that I don’t really need. I hate dentists that are always telling me I need every filling replaced or some special cleaning or other treatment. His name is Karl Baker and his practice is Ujique Dental. You can tell Him Andrew sent you. He will at least give you an idea of what you are looking at. If it’s an emergency he’ll get you in right away.

Swaro 12s and a spotter.