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Thanks for the explanation. Yeah I would have continued to fight it for what was presented. I would like to know what road this was on cause yeah it's pretty vague. I do and have told people to make sure to step off the road but some of these "maintained' dirt roads where does it actually end? Its very subjective.
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That attorney explained and it kind of made sense. He didn't really care about getting a misdemeanor when he thought they decided not to take his license after the 180 day statute of limitations. So when 180+ days past he said I dont really care if this conviction stands as long as I'm not losing my license so he dropped it. Then it sounds like azgfd came in after the 180 days and gave him notice of the revocation. Thats where I dont understand why he didnt fight it more. I dont know the details of that part but seems like it should be clear cut if they missed their 180 day period. But courts seem to give law enforcement a lot of leeway and make exceptions for them quite often.
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But the thing is it wasn't him, it was the Hunter. And since the hunter shot it with a foot on the road that made the deer illegal. So once it became illegal, transporting it for the hunter to the taxidermist was illegal because it was unlawfully taken. Am I missing something because that sounds like horse shoot to me? Also, I am confused why he dropped his appeal. I dont think that was a good move.
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More ready to head home!
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It is mountable it was tubed out
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Live Stream of the January 16th AZGFD Commission Meeting
Flatlander replied to TR0UBLE SH00TER's topic in The Campfire
Seems like a pendulum swing. A few years ago some guides were getting off with a slap on the wrist. That’s a lame application of that law. Koury was looking for otc elk instead of scouting for his once in a lifetime deer tag?! Of course he should have known better. That’s on him. But that’s a silly letter of the law interpretation and honestly it sounds like they busted him because he was a guide. I hate that stuff. Seems like WMO’s want to target these guys, and I am not a fan of LEO’s trying to make a name for themselves. -
Wow. I’ve shot a pile of critters from a road. Musta been county maintained or something? I’d have to brush up on my AZ regs again I guess! We can legally shoot from the road here in ND. Seems like a petty offense to take away a license for 5 years?!?
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Let me think, ...nope, not once. I actually enjoy the challenge of hunting. If I don't fill a tag, I consider it a win for the species and use the defeat as motivation to become a better hunter. Cheating would only hinder my progress. I'm fairly new to hunting. I only started back in 2020 when my oldest son was 9. We read the regulations front to back, several times before he and I took our Hunter Education classes/tests. I keep a current copy of each regulations book in my truck and my sons and I all carry copies in our backpacks too. The rules regarding hunting from, across or into a road/railway are easy to understand. There are so many things that can be learned and practiced while hunting. One of the most important to me personally is ethics, as I have become a youth hunting mentor to my sons and many of their friends. During youth hunts, I've been known to assist other parents who I've just met to fill their youth's tags, after my son's tags were filled. Some might say I'm a glutton for punishment. But as a homeschooling parent, I get a real sense of accomplishment from teaching our youth. And what would I be teaching them by doing something the unethical way? My 15-year-old son has shown an interest in guiding as a potential career opportunity, so these threads/cases are especially intriguing to me.
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Nope, I have not
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Mathews vxr 31.5 sold
Original born to hunt replied to Original born to hunt's topic in Classified Ads
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Live Stream of the January 16th AZGFD Commission Meeting
TR0UBLE SH00TER replied to TR0UBLE SH00TER's topic in The Campfire
He was caught flying his paraplane in a grid pattern, only hundreds of feet off the ground during a OTC Elk hunt in unit 13B. On August 7, 2024, following a bench trial in the North Canyon Consolidated Court in and for Mohave County, defendant, David Shane Koury, a Show Low resident, was found guilty of violating A.R.S. § 17-309(A)(1) per R12-319(B), Use of Aircraft to Take Wildlife. During the bench trial, testimony and video was presented that defendant intentionally committed the crime alleged including information on the flight path and elevation conducive to locating wildlife versus locating water. The trial court also heard testimony from Koury that he was unaware of an ongoing hunt despite testimony that he was the owner of a guide service, familiar with the specific area and had been a licensed guide for over 25 years. Defendant further testified that he was looking for water sources, not wildlife and that he had an archery tag for the upcoming Mule Deer hunt. The trial court did not find defendant credible https://appsweb.mohave.gov/attorney/public/trials/22/pdf/download/f8087041-3e4a-4cd8-b535-568010d9b188 -
You’ve never shot a deer from a road? Never? Not once?
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5-25 pr1 moa with Hawkins 1” rings. Great condition with no marks on body or glass. Have box and caps that come factory for scope. $1750 with rings
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Live Stream of the January 16th AZGFD Commission Meeting
Flatlander replied to TR0UBLE SH00TER's topic in The Campfire
Did we ever find out the actual facts about what Koury did? -
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Live Stream of the January 16th AZGFD Commission Meeting
654321 replied to TR0UBLE SH00TER's topic in The Campfire
No axe to grind, have never met either one, and I wish I could have watched the show. -
Revoction hearing for Nicholas Debaca - 2025-0044 Possession of Unlawfully Taken White-Tailed Deer https://www.azgfd.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/January-16-2026-Commission-Agenda.pdf St. Duwayne Adams, his son- in law, Nicholas Debaca and another guide were assisting a rifle Coues tag holder that admitted to shooting a Coues deer from a dirt road, in their presence. The hunter cut a deal with the court and implicated the guides. The court found Mr. Debaca guilty of possessing the unlawfully taken deer, because it was located it in his vehicle and today, the commission imposed a hefty fine on him, revoked his hunting license for 5 years, and ordered him to take the hunter-ed course.
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AZGFD - 2026 PRONGHORN, ELK DRAW NOW OPEN!
wildwoody replied to TR0UBLE SH00TER's topic in The Campfire
we used to love the east and west sunset mnt any elk hunts. Now there only cow hunts for us. Don't have a problem with that but I do miss them. -
Anyone have one that's in mountable condition . I would like to get one stuffed.
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$380obo FTF in Chandler near Ray and AZ ave. Complete upper, Includes buffer weight and two pmags with endomag conversion to run on milspec AR15 lowers. Runs nice suppressed with my FRT. It's just been sitting since I bought my SP5k. Optic not included. Post I'll take it and PM your Phone number so I can text you back. PXL_20241224_182745112.mp4
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Doesn't it need a seal from Game and Fish also?
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Location?
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Did you cut it up the belly?
